The road towards the AutoEuropa's frauds

  • Posted: Feb 24 09 02:10 PM by Flippe in About.com 

Please pardon the rather long back-story, I made it as concise and clear as I could.

In Autumn 2007 I, my wife Judy, and her 87 year old Mother, Francis went on a three week vacation trip to Italy. I had pre-arranged on the internet to pick up a rental car from a company called auto-europa/Sicily by Car at our arrival airport in Naples. We landed very late in the evening of 28 September just as the car rental offices were closing, just managing get the car lease taken care of. The rental charges were paid by my mother-in-law Francis on her credit card and I was designated as the driver of the vehicle. We took a shuttle bus to the dark car lot and finally located the car.

After starting the car I found that I could not engage in reverse gear. Though this was unacceptable, the rental office had closed and my only option was to drive to my hotel. Upon arrival at the hotel the vehicle was escorted into a secure and gated parking lot by the hotel manager and remained there until the next morning, at which time I contacted the rental office and explained to them that "reverse" gear did not work and was advised to return the vehicle to the airport where it would be exchanged. The Hotel manager was also unsucessful in engaging reverse so he opened the gate, helped us push the car out of the spot it was parked in, and I drove the car back to the airport to be replaced with a properly functioning vehicle.

After our travels we returned the “second” car as pre-arranged to the auto-europa office at our departure airport in Pisa. We arrived back home in the U.S. on Oct 22.

On November 2, 2007 I received a letter from auto-europa stating a claim for the amount of Euro 253.75 + VAT 20% had been charged to my mother-in-law’s credit card for “accident and/or damage" to the original (faulty) vehicle; the one had we exchanged at the Naples Airport on 29/09/07 as described above. While I would have vehemently disputed the claim had it been on my credit card, Francis didn't fully grasp the situation, and thinking this was just a legitimate charge from our vacation in Italy went ahead and paid it. I decided at this point the best thing to do would be to let it go, thinking it had been resolved.

In August, 2008 I received another letter from auto-europa dated July 22, stating that: “a violation was detected during the period you were in possession of the vehicle you rented with our Company from 28/09/07 22.19 to 17/10/07. Please, find herewith attached a copy of the hereabove mentioned fine. We wish to inform you that we proceeded to charge you, on your credit card, for the amount of € 50,00 + V.A.T. 20% relevant to the file handling fee plus the postal fee as per authorisation you signed on the rental agreement.”

The ticket states that on “2007/10/13 at 14:56 we were electronically detected driving in a restricted area without authorization, Via G. Garibaldi – Varco, Sienna”.

According to our records we were, indeed, in Siena on October 13, 2007. We arrived in town early in the day and drove around until we found a spot in a paid parking lot. We know that at 14:56 we had been on foot for some time and have receipts to prove this with both the date and time marked.

At that point we decided to request that CIBC VISA protest the Auto Europa charge on my mother-in-law’s card. They tried, but as it was proving extremely difficult to establish that we weren't responsible for the charges she did not protest further and paid the charges. At that point Francis changed her credit card and we felt she was safe from further harassment.

On February 13 this year I received a letter from a collection agency stating that this debt had been referred to their office for collection, and:

Unless you notify this office within 30 days after receiving this notice that you dispute the validity of this debt or any portion thereof, this office will assume this debt is valid. If you notify this office in writing within 30 days from receiving this notice, this office will obtain verification of the debt or obtain a copy of a judgement and mail you a copy of such judgement or verification. If you request this office in writing within 30 days after receiving this notice, this office will provide you with the name and address of the original creditor, if different from the current creditor.”

They reference the debt as follows:

COUNTRY: ITALY
CITY: TORINO
VIOLATION: 007 - DRIVING IN A RESTRICTED AREA WITHOUT AUTHORIZATION
LOCATION: VIA G. GARIBALDI – VARCO
PLATE# DB004AB
DATE: 2007/10/13
FINE: $131.90

This collection notice -- to me -- is absolutely and completely out of the blue. My wife and I have worked extremely carefully over the decades to earn and maintain what is a pretty stellar credit rating (792 and 807 FICO respectively) and I am aghast that a collection agency is contacting me for ANYTHING.

How do I fight this? On the one hand, I’m reluctant to deal with a collection agency at all but I’ve certainly found transatlantic multi-language communications have proved – at best -- frustrating and less than useless. (As alert readers will note, the first infraction took place in Sienna and the second was purportedly in Turin. These cities are 436 kilometers apart).

I DO have a copy of Francis’ VISA payment for the alleged “fine” -- made to AUTO EUROPA MULTE FIN PALERMO (posted on August 5, 2008). What should my first step in fighting this be? I do only have about two weeks left to dispute this before it will be assumed by the collection agency as a valid debt.

Philip

  • Posted: Mar 22 09 04:40 PM Kelliecat2 replied

Have you been able to get a solution to this?  My mother and I were in Italy in May 2007 and have had the same situation regarding a supposed traffic violation during our trip in Florence with autoeuropa.  1 year after the trip we received the first notice of the violation and were told we were being charged on the credit card then received a second notice recently (almost another year) that it had not been paid. 

Thanks!

 

Hi Philip,

I'm from South Africa and I'm having the same problem with the car rental place!!! We were there last year in August 2008, paid our car to the full, and now a YEAR later they deducted R710 and R702 from credit card account!!! I had to stop my card now, and pay another R96 to get a new card!! How did you get your money back??? And resolve the situation?

 I feel sooooooo helpless!!! Hope to hear from you soon!

Carol

karoolstokes@gmail.com

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  • Posted: Aug 14 09 12:35 PM
i also have same problem wat we do???????????????
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  • Posted: Jan 26 10 01:59 PM by kekvall
I've had the same problem as well. Has anyone found the solution?

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